# Between Two Nerds: What China gets wrong about Russia's cyber war in Ukraine

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Podcast: [Risky Bulletin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/risky-bulletin-5423259)
Published: 2026-07-20T20:00:25+00:00
Episode link: https://risky.biz/BTN175/
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Duration seconds: 1624

## Resource

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss what mainland Chinese analysts think about Russia’s use of cyber operations in the war in Ukraine. This episode is also available on YouTube.

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