# Between Two Nerds: The wild wild west

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Podcast: [Risky Bulletin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/risky-bulletin-5423259)
Published: 2026-05-04T19:45:48+00:00
Episode link: https://risky.biz/BTN165/
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## Resource

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss the breakdown of cyber norms. What would have been an unthinkable cyber operation just a few years ago is now a regular occurrence. This episode is also available on YouTube.

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