# Between Two Nerds: The PRC vs AI

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Podcast: [Risky Bulletin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/risky-bulletin-5423259)
Published: 2026-06-22T20:00:03+00:00
Episode link: https://risky.biz/BTN171/
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## Resource

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss the idea that the People’s Republic of China has mobilised its influence operations against the construction of US data centres and its build out of AI capacity. This episode is also available on YouTube.

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