# Between Two Nerds: Hackers from the future

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Podcast: [Risky Bulletin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/risky-bulletin-5423259)
Published: 2026-04-27T20:49:03+00:00
Episode link: https://risky.biz/BTN164/
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## Resource

In this edition of Between Two Nerds Tom Uren and The Grugq discuss what the North Korean hack of Drift can tell us about the future of hacking. This episode is also available on YouTube.

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