# Meet The VCs Digging for Gold in the Gutter with Dan Teran & James Gettinger

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Podcast: [RiskReversal Pod](https://stenobird.com/podcast/riskreversal-pod-1366742)
Published: 2026-06-24T09:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Dan Nathan and Guy Adami open by focusing on heightened volatility in the NASDAQ and semiconductors after the SOXX hit an all-time high then fell 7%, alongside a 10% overnight drop in South Korea’s KOSPI, raising concerns about a global snowball effect. They argue widening volatility bands, “meme stock” dynamics in names like Intel, heavy AI-related capital raising, higher rates, and data-center build push-outs could signal a market high, while the consumer shows strain in retailer and restaurant commentary. They preview Micron earnings, noting extreme implied moves, massive stock swings, and skepticism that “dirt cheap” valuation offsets cyclicality, with high-bandwidth memory now central to the AI trade. After the break, Dan Nathan hosts Gutter Capital co-founders Dan Teran and James Getinger to discuss the firm’s $75 million Fund III and the second iteration of its New York City accelerator, Elbow Grease. They explain Gutter’s origins from 110+ angel investments, a concentrated portfolio strategy, and a highly hands-on operating model focused on recruiting and day-to-day company building. Teran recounts founding and selling Managed by Q to WeWork and how those experiences shaped Gutter’s approach, while Getinger shares his decade as a profitable professional gambler and how that informed his quantitative and operational investing style. They argue venture has become increasingly consensus-driven, with rising seed valuations and capital concentrated in a few mega-funds, making early fundraising harder for nontraditional founders. Gutter emphasizes earlier-stage bets, community and mentorship on Canal Street, and investing in AI-enabled application-layer companies without needing to price frontier-model valuations. —FOLLOW USYouTube: @RiskReversalMediaInstagram: @risk…

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