# From Mass Graves to Mass Incarceration: Recap

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Podcast: [Rights & Wrongs](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rights-wrongs-6889244)
Published: 2025-06-30T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://rights-wrongs.captivate.fm
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Last year, we told the story of how President Nayib Bukele came to power in El Salvador on a promise of ending gang violence. He succeeded, turning a state that was the world’s murder capital into one with one of the lowest homicide rates in the Western Hemisphere. But in the process, he systematically dismantled democratic checks and balances and arbitrarily detained tens of thousands of people, including children. El Salvador now has the highest rate of incarceration in the world.     This year, the story took a darker turn. The Trump administration deported over 200 Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador, where they were locked up in a maximum-security prison with no way to challenge their detention. We’re re-airing this episode with a chilling update on the dangerous deal between Trump and Bukele— and how it signals Trump’s growing alliance with authoritarian leaders to advance his hardline agenda.  Juanita Goebertus Estrada: Director of Human Rights Watch’s Americas Division    José Miguel Cruz: Director of Research at Florida International University's Kimberly Green Latin American and Caribbean Center 

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