# RSWC #253 Lizzie Jackovich

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Published: 2026-05-12T12:30:00+00:00
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Riding Shotgun With Charlie #253 Lizzie Jackovich Firearm Owners Against Crime Nearly everywhere I've gone for the last several years, I try to film an episode with someone. I've been going to the Great American Outdoor Show which is held in Harrisburg, PA, in the dead of winter and presented by NRA. Lizzie and I met at a Waffle House with some friends and did the show on the way to the GAOS. Yes, I'm surprised there was a WaHo close enough for breakfast. It was about 7 degrees outside when we met. And it was very windy! Lizzie is a volunteer with Firearm Owners Against Crime (FOAC). FOAC is led by Jim Stoker (RSWC #187) and Klint Macro (RSWC #069 & #201). They're fighting all the time, like everyone else, with the anti-gun politicians. Lizzie is in it to make things better for her children and to make sure they don't lose the Right to Keep & Bear under her watch. They've got two groups, the ILLEA, Institute for Legal, Legislation, and Educational Action and their Political Action Committee. The "crime" part of FOAC isn't "regular" crime; it's the crime of the politicians they're fighting. For those who may be interested, the Pennsylvania carry permit is pretty easy to get. You need to fill out an application and give them a $20 bill. I went to central PA a few years ago to the Tommy Gun Warehouse and I drove a bit further to get my PA permit while I waited. It took an hour. Lizzie has a history of gun owners and shooters in her family. Her grandfather was a chief of police. Her dad became a police officer, too, but he had several careers. As a young man, her dad was a Marine sniper and very much into shooting and fishing. As a young girl, Lizzie was into archery, joined the boys teams, and embarrassed them. When she was older, she had some things happen in her life. W…

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