# Def Jam’s Pivot, Hip Hop at the Vatican & Cardi B’s Album Rollout

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Podcast: [Rhythm and Rhymes](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rhythm-and-rhymes-6393755)
Published: 2025-09-17T18:21:26+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/realrandr/episodes/Def-Jams-Pivot--Hip-Hop-at-the-Vatican--Cardi-Bs-Album-Rollout-e38c04c
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## Resource

In Episode 104 of the Rhythm & Rhymes Podcast, AJ & Tone dive into major cultural stories: – Def Jam’s new CEO Tunji Balogun and the label’s pivot toward Afrobeats & global sounds – The Clipse making history as the first hip hop group to perform at the Vatican – Jacksonville’s place in music history + the “Whoomp vs Whoot” controversy of the 90s – Cardi B promoting her upcoming album back in Washington Heights – New music from Knucks, Rapsody x Madlib, Kal Banks x Isaiah Rashad, Joey Bada$$, and more Plus, fresh playlist picks and a debate on preserving vs. evolving Black music history.

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