# BONUS EPISODE: "WE WERE THERE TO BE THERE"/THE CRAMPS AND THE MUTANTS AT NAPA STATE w/ Jason Willis & Mike Plante Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/revolutions-per-movie-6604757/bonus-episode-we-were-there-to-be-there-the-cramps-and-the-mutants-at-napa-state-w-jason-willis-mike-plante Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/revolutions-per-movie-6604757/bonus-episode-we-were-there-to-be-there-the-cramps-and-the-mutants-at-napa-state-w-jason-willis-mike-plante.md Podcast: [REVOLUTIONS PER MOVIE](https://stenobird.com/podcast/revolutions-per-movie-6604757) Published: 2026-02-24T10:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/revolutionspermovie/episodes/bonus-episode-we-were-there-to-be-there-w Audio file: https://sphinx.acast.com/p/open/s/64de4e5db2838f0011a11fce/e/69322380aef2c71c1d949004/media.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/revolutions-per-movie-6604757/episodes/bonus-episode-we-were-there-to-be-there-the-cramps-and-the-mutants-at-napa-state-w-jason-willis-mike-plante Duration seconds: 4218 ## Resource Welcome to an emergency BONUS episode of Revolutions Per Movie! Last week, while I was talking to Jackie and Jill from Target Video, they mentioned the doc  We Were There To Be There,  which focuses on Target filming  The Cramps  &  The Mutants  playing a show at Napa State, a psychiatric hospital in Northern California. So today, here is my conversation with Jason Willis & Mike Plante, who directed  We Were There To Be There !!! We discuss how we each discovered Target Video VHS tapes and how it made us feel we weren't alone in our weirdness, the  Flipside Video  series, how goofy  Black Flag  was in their videos with Target,  Repo Man , fanzines,  Greg Turkington (Neil Hamburger)  in the crowd of a Target Video shoot for the  Meat Puppets , how the film changed its focus during the research phase, tracking down Target Video head  Joe Rees  in the wilderness, the legal and ethical concerns that arise while making a documentary, the surprising conservatism of San Francisco in this era, the doc’s explanation of how The Cramps ended up playing Napa State and the history of the hospital, how Reagan destroyed the inner works of Napa State, the NEA, the footage of The Mutants playing The School For The Deaf,  Flipper ,  Desolation Center , the importance of LSD in the early days of the punk music scene, how the lines between the audience and the bands performing at Napa State were completely shattered,  Bryan Gregory ’s performance, the lost Mutants footage discovered after 40 years and where they found it,  The Punk Media Research Collection Archive , Scopitones, Eerie publications, straight edge punk and so much more! Watch WE WERE THERE TO BE TH… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/revolutions-per-movie-6604757/episodes/bonus-episode-we-were-there-to-be-there-the-cramps-and-the-mutants-at-napa-state-w-jason-willis-mike-plante/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/revolutions-per-movie-6604757/bonus-episode-we-were-there-to-be-there-the-cramps-and-the-mutants-at-napa-state-w-jason-willis-mike-plante.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.