# Jeff Jarvis on the Death of Mass Media, Twitter vs. UberMedia, and Section 230’s Brilliance Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/revolution-social-7409931/jeff-jarvis-on-the-death-of-mass-media-twitter-vs-ubermedia-and-section-230-s-brilliance Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/revolution-social-7409931/jeff-jarvis-on-the-death-of-mass-media-twitter-vs-ubermedia-and-section-230-s-brilliance.md Podcast: [Revolution.Social](https://stenobird.com/podcast/revolution-social-7409931) Published: 2025-10-23T08:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/b2664ed4fb71474e351cfe34838298e3f0b6a4630b58a4675999fab668c7cb90/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwYzJmZWM0ZC01YTcxLTRkM2ItOTY3YS1hZGRlY2NkOGY0MDgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1ZGI0ZGViNy1lMjY0LTRiOTItOTlhZS01NzdlNDNiNjRlZWUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTAyNjQ4Y2IwZGFmNjIxOWMxYjY1OTQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvaW1wb3J0cy9wb2RjYXN0cy81ZGI0ZGViNy1lMjY0LTRiOTItOTlhZS01NzdlNDNiNjRlZWUvZXBpc29kZXMvMGMyZmVjNGQtNWE3MS00ZDNiLTk2N2EtYWRkZWNjZDhmNDA4L05PVERJMTE3OTIwOTA5Mi5tcDMifQ==.mp3 Audio file: https://api.riverside.com/hosting-analytics/media/b2664ed4fb71474e351cfe34838298e3f0b6a4630b58a4675999fab668c7cb90/eyJlcGlzb2RlSWQiOiIwYzJmZWM0ZC01YTcxLTRkM2ItOTY3YS1hZGRlY2NkOGY0MDgiLCJwb2RjYXN0SWQiOiI1ZGI0ZGViNy1lMjY0LTRiOTItOTlhZS01NzdlNDNiNjRlZWUiLCJhY2NvdW50SWQiOiI2YTAyNjQ4Y2IwZGFmNjIxOWMxYjY1OTQiLCJwYXRoIjoibWVkaWEvaW1wb3J0cy9wb2RjYXN0cy81ZGI0ZGViNy1lMjY0LTRiOTItOTlhZS01NzdlNDNiNjRlZWUvZXBpc29kZXMvMGMyZmVjNGQtNWE3MS00ZDNiLTk2N2EtYWRkZWNjZDhmNDA4L05PVERJMTE3OTIwOTA5Mi5tcDMifQ==.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/revolution-social-7409931/episodes/jeff-jarvis-on-the-death-of-mass-media-twitter-vs-ubermedia-and-section-230-s-brilliance Duration seconds: 4033 ## Resource In books like The Web We Weave and podcasts such as Intelligent Machines, journalist and educator Jeff Jarvis — formerly the director of the Tow-Knight Center for Entrepreneurial Journalism at the City University of New York — has traced the history of media from the Gutenberg press to AI. And he says that today’s attempts to clamp down on the internet are nothing new. "Whenever there's an explosion of speech, those who controlled speech resent it," Jeff explains. "They try to fight it, they try to control it, they launch into a moral panic about it." Today on Revolution.Social, Jeff and Rabble talk about the pivotal battle between Twitter and third-party apps like UberMedia; how Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects free expression; and why Medium's human curation works better than Substack's anything-goes approach. They also discuss the problems with age verification laws, why the "commons resistance" in AI might succeed, and what Black Twitter's migration to Blacksky teaches us about reclaiming platforms. Follow Rabble: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ This episode was produced and edited by Eric Johnson from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LightningPod.fm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and executive produced by Alice Chan from ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Flock Marketing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. To learn more about Rabble’s social media bill of rights, and sign up for our newsletter, visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://revolution.social/ ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/revolution-social-7409931/episodes/jeff-jarvis-on-the-death-of-mass-media-twitter-vs-ubermedia-and-section-230-s-brilliance/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/revolution-social-7409931/jeff-jarvis-on-the-death-of-mass-media-twitter-vs-ubermedia-and-section-230-s-brilliance.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.