# Dialectics Without Destiny: Marx, Darwin, and the Natural History of the Climate Crisis

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Podcast: [Rev Left Radio](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rev-left-radio-661976)
Published: 2026-03-25T10:43:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, we're joined by professor Joel Wainwright (co-author of Climate Leviathan ) to discuss his newest book, The End: Marx, Darwin, and the Natural History of the Climate Crisis . Together, Breht and Joel explore the intellectual impact Charles Darwin had on Karl Marx, and why it matters for the ecological crisis of our time. Wainwright argues that Marx's study of Darwin helped him develop a distinctly Marxian concept of natural history, reshaping how he understood history, nature, and capitalism itself. Reading Capital through this lens, they unpack how Marx's critique becomes an ecological critique: capitalism as a social formation that reorganizes the human–Earth relation, producing crisis, "surplus" populations, and new forms of domination - and have some fun disagreements along the way. They close by asking what this natural-historical Marx can contribute to building an eco-socialist alternative beyond capitalist growth and climate catastrophe. Check out Breht and Alyson's previous episode on Climate Leviathan HERE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Support Rev Left and get bonus episodes on Patreon Make a one-time donation to Rev Left at BuyMeACoffee.com/revleftradio Follow RLR on IG HERE Learn more about Rev Left HERE

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