# Bonus: Ryan Leslie talks about The Between and The Garden of Before (and Wolfe)

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Podcast: [ReReading Wolfe](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rereading-wolfe-648332)
Published: 2025-08-16T02:10:45+00:00
Episode link: https://rereadingwolfe.podbean.com/e/bonus-ryan-leslie-talks-about-the-between-and-the-garden-of-before-and-wolfe/
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## Resource

Ryan Leslie Interview Ryan Leslie is a writer whose third book, The Garden of Before, is coming out on September 23, 2025. We discuss his other books The Between and Colossus (which Craig narrated for him -- the audiobook is available on Audible). Links: * The Between * Colossus * Audiobook of Colossus (narrated by Craig) * Incubus (Shatner's Esperanto movie) - This episode is sponsored by Self-Care. - You can become a patron and hear additional episodes at https://www.patreon.com/rereadingwolfe - You can also get episodes on your podcast app or on our Youtube channel. If you have problems accessing the podcast on your favorite platform, let us know. - Questions, comments, corrections, additions, alternate theories? Connect with us on on Facebook ...or on Twitter @rereadingwolfe ...or on Instagram: rereadingwolfepodcast ...or on Reddit: rereadingwolfepodcast Intro from "The Alligator", Annihilation soundtrack by Ben Salisbury and Geoff Barrow Sponsor ad background music from "My Name Is" by Eminem Outro from "Colossus" by Magic Sword Logo art by SonOfWitz Outros and alternate outros are cued on the Rereading Wolfe Podcast Spotify playlist IF the songs are available on Spotify.

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