# Prof Michael Donovan - Pro Vice Chancellor Indigenous at La Trobe University - on Reconciliation in Higher Education

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Podcast: [Reimagining HigherEd](https://stenobird.com/podcast/reimagining-highered-7047310)
Published: 2026-05-28T22:56:00+00:00
Episode link: https://studiosity.podbean.com/e/prof-michael-donovan-pro-vice-chancellor-indigenous-at-la-trobe-university-on-reconciliation-in-higher-education/
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## Resource

In this special episode of the Reimagining Higher Education podcast, Prof Judyth Sachs sits down with Prof Michael Donovan, a Gumbaynggir man and Pro Vice Chancellor (Indigenous) at La Trobe University, to explore the intersection of Indigenous knowledges and academic practice. Drawing on his diverse background as a nurse, teacher, and Fulbright Schola, Prof Donovan discusses moving beyond trying to 'crowbar' Indigenous content into the curriculum, advocating instead for a relational pedagogy that aligns Indigenous understandings with core disciplinary concepts. The conversation highlights the importance of authentic Indigenous governance and the necessity of "walking the walk" - from executive-level decision-making to building deep, listening-based relationships with community elders. Through his personal reflections on reconciliation, Prof Donovan offers a roadmap for institutional change that puts shared growth at its heart.

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