# Refuge Freedom Stories - Doug Ell

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Podcast: [Refuge Freedom Stories](https://stenobird.com/podcast/refuge-freedom-stories-7047208)
Published: 2026-05-01T12:43:22+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1576

## Resource

Interview with Doug Ell. Doug, an MIT graduate, lawyer, and former atheist, discusses science, faith, and, intelligent design in DNA.

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