# 435 How to Build a Billion-Dollar Referral Business (5 People at a Time) with Michael J Maher and Sheena Saydam Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/referrals-podcast-728015/435-how-to-build-a-billion-dollar-referral-business-5-people-at-a-time-with-michael-j-maher-and-sheena-saydam Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/referrals-podcast-728015/435-how-to-build-a-billion-dollar-referral-business-5-people-at-a-time-with-michael-j-maher-and-sheena-saydam.md Podcast: [REFERRALS PODCAST](https://stenobird.com/podcast/referrals-podcast-728015) Published: 2026-04-14T09:00:28+00:00 Episode link: https://referralspodcast.libsyn.com/435-how-to-build-a-billion-dollar-referral-business-5-people-at-a-time-with-michael-j-maher-and-sheena-saydam Audio file: https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/traffic.libsyn.com/secure/referralspodcast/312702438_435_How_She_Built_a_Billion_Dollar_Referral_Business_5_People_at_a_Time_with_Michael_J_Mah-3732.mp3?dest-id=755365 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/referrals-podcast-728015/episodes/435-how-to-build-a-billion-dollar-referral-business-5-people-at-a-time-with-michael-j-maher-and-sheena-saydam Duration seconds: 4244 ## Resource Title: How to Build a Billion-Dollar Referral Business (5 People at a Time) Host: Michael J. Maher Guest: Sheena Saydam Description: Learn how to build a billion-dollar real estate business without chasing leads, paid ads, or cold calling… but simply about people? In this powerful episode of the Referrals Podcast, Michael sits down with Sheena Saydam—leader of the Saydam Properties Group, a billion-dollar referral-based real estate business to uncover the surprisingly simple strategy behind her massive success. From starting in a down market to scaling to over 200 homes a year, Sheena reveals how she built her entire business through referrals by focusing on one consistent habit: meeting 5 new people and reconnecting with 5 existing contacts every single week. But this episode goes far beyond numbers. Sheena shares how generosity, community impact, and a mission-driven mindset created a virtuous cycle—where giving leads to relationships, relationships lead to referrals, and referrals lead to exponential growth. If you're tired of chasing business and ready to build something that grows naturally through people… this episode will change the way you think about success. (7L) Referral Strategies: Events, Generosity, Give Back Campaign Special Offer: Ready to stop chasing business and start building a referral-based business by design? Join the Generosity Generation and surround yourself with professionals who are building their businesses on relationships, generosity, and referrals. 👉 JoinGenGen.com ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/referrals-podcast-728015/episodes/435-how-to-build-a-billion-dollar-referral-business-5-people-at-a-time-with-michael-j-maher-and-sheena-saydam/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/referrals-podcast-728015/435-how-to-build-a-billion-dollar-referral-business-5-people-at-a-time-with-michael-j-maher-and-sheena-saydam.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.