# What Comes After the IDE 🖥 — with Amelia Wattenberger

Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-7057405/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger
Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-7057405/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger.md
Podcast: [Refactoring Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-7057405)
Published: 2026-03-20T08:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.spreaker.com/episode/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger--70775551
Audio file: https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70775551/420379415_44100_2_c833c77d00569.mp3
Processing state: not_requested
JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/refactoring-podcast-7057405/episodes/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger
Duration seconds: 3098

## Resource

Today's guest is Amelia Wattenberger, former principal research engineer at GitHub and now partner at Sutter Hill Ventures. But she's also a product lead at Augment Code, where she developed Intent, a developer workspace for orchestrating AI coding agents and delivering complex work. So this is a fascinating chat into the future and the present of software development with someone who has clearly been at the very frontier of this for many years. (00:00) Preview(01:11) Introduction(03:26) What is "Intent"?(09:56) Splitting agents for best performance(12:32) Spec and subtasks(17:46) Decision and generation(22:15) Features, opinion and abstractions(25:37) The note system(27:41) Attitude is reflected in approach(35:21) Engineers in the new era of crafting(37:14) Managing skills applied to an agent environment(39:46) Orchestrating agents(45:50) The future of deep specialists —You can also find this at: • 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d...• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... —For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club

## Actions

- request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/refactoring-podcast-7057405/episodes/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode.
- read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast-7057405/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource.

A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed.

## Transcript

Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.