# When Cyber Meets Physical: Building Executive and Employee Protection Programs That Actually Work | A Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast Conversation with Roland Cloutier, Principal of The Business Protection Group Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/when-cyber-meets-physical-building-executive-and-employee-protection-programs-that-actually-work-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-roland-cloutier-principal-of-the-business-protection-group Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/when-cyber-meets-physical-building-executive-and-employee-protection-programs-that-actually-work-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-roland-cloutier-principal-of-the-business-protection-group.md Podcast: [Redefining CyberSecurity](https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228) Published: 2026-03-18T13:04:07+00:00 Episode link: https://redefiningcybersecuritypodcast.com/episodes/when-cyber-meets-physical-building-executive-and-employee-protection-programs-that-actually-work-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-roland-cloutier-principal-of-the-business-protection-group-ZBccIc23 Audio file: https://afp-110348-injected.calisto.simplecastaudio.com/2b1dc60d-44ac-4567-9983-3a0637497eab/episodes/acff4d24-502d-4fcc-b5be-e42f99c938e1/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=2b1dc60d-44ac-4567-9983-3a0637497eab&awEpisodeId=acff4d24-502d-4fcc-b5be-e42f99c938e1&feed=GzAtTpW2 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/episodes/when-cyber-meets-physical-building-executive-and-employee-protection-programs-that-actually-work-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-roland-cloutier-principal-of-the-business-protection-group Duration seconds: 1504 ## Resource Most organizations treat security as a technology problem -- but when executives are threatened, employees are caught in disasters, or physical and cyber risks collide, the gaps in that thinking become dangerously clear. Roland Cloutier, Principal of The Business Protection Group and former Global Chief Security Officer at TikTok/ByteDance and ADP, joins Sean Martin to explore what it really means to build converged executive and employee protection programs that reflect the full scope of modern risk. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/episodes/when-cyber-meets-physical-building-executive-and-employee-protection-programs-that-actually-work-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-roland-cloutier-principal-of-the-business-protection-group/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/when-cyber-meets-physical-building-executive-and-employee-protection-programs-that-actually-work-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-roland-cloutier-principal-of-the-business-protection-group.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.