# The Flood Made Everything Free. So Now We Pay for Proof. | Lens Four by Sean Martin | Read by TAPE9

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Podcast: [Redefining CyberSecurity](https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228)
Published: 2026-07-11T16:21:52+00:00
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