# Cybersecurity Leadership Is a People Problem, Not a Technology Problem | A Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast Conversation with Tera Ladner, Deputy Global Chief Information Security Officer of Aflac Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/cybersecurity-leadership-is-a-people-problem-not-a-technology-problem-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-tera-ladner-deputy-global-chief-information-security-officer-of-aflac Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/cybersecurity-leadership-is-a-people-problem-not-a-technology-problem-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-tera-ladner-deputy-global-chief-information-security-officer-of-aflac.md Podcast: [Redefining CyberSecurity](https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228) Published: 2026-06-19T04:25:19+00:00 Episode link: https://redefiningcybersecuritypodcast.com/episodes/cybersecurity-leadership-is-a-people-problem-not-a-technology-problem-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-tera-ladner-deputy-global-chief-information-security-officer-of-aflac-9fZ2XCqw Audio file: https://afp-110348-injected.calisto.simplecastaudio.com/2b1dc60d-44ac-4567-9983-3a0637497eab/episodes/264ffedd-00fb-4805-a387-bca90a1a8d63/audio/128/default.mp3?aid=rss_feed&awCollectionId=2b1dc60d-44ac-4567-9983-3a0637497eab&awEpisodeId=264ffedd-00fb-4805-a387-bca90a1a8d63&feed=GzAtTpW2 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/episodes/cybersecurity-leadership-is-a-people-problem-not-a-technology-problem-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-tera-ladner-deputy-global-chief-information-security-officer-of-aflac Duration seconds: 1911 ## Resource A deputy global CISO who came up through information governance and law school makes the case that the strongest security leaders lead with risk, relationships, and storytelling, not with technology. It is a conversation about non-traditional paths into cyber, building people-centric teams, and why the talent pipeline depends on inviting in people who never planned to take a computer apart. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/episodes/cybersecurity-leadership-is-a-people-problem-not-a-technology-problem-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-tera-ladner-deputy-global-chief-information-security-officer-of-aflac/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/redefining-cybersecurity-5914228/cybersecurity-leadership-is-a-people-problem-not-a-technology-problem-a-redefining-cybersecurity-podcast-conversation-with-tera-ladner-deputy-global-chief-information-security-officer-of-aflac.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.