# Talking Toki Pona and Esperanto with Okan

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Podcast: [Recombination Nation](https://stenobird.com/podcast/recombination-nation-7074994)
Published: 2026-04-10T03:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/zeroinputagriculture/2711980
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## Resource

Okan learnt two of the most successful constructed languages- the sprawling, romantic Esperanto and cute minimalist Toki Pona. After covering the history of these languages we delve deeper into the dynamics of experimental language communities, the psychology of conlangers, and the potential interplay of culture, technology and experimental languages in the near future. Drop me a message on substack if you would like to reach out to Jan. Try learning Toki Pona yourself here: https://wasona.com Learn more about Esperanto here: https://lernu.net Sign up to Recombination Nation on Substack for free weekly articles: https://recombinationnation.substack.com Read Shane's book, Taming the Apocalypse, about the future of post industrial biological technology: https://www.amazon.com/Taming-Apocalypse-Shane-Simonsen-ebook/dp/B0D2XCLJ85/

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