# Weaponised trade and a return to gunboat diplomacy

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Podcast: [Rear Vision — How History Shaped Today](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rear-vision-how-history-shaped-today-1530908)
Published: 2026-01-23T20:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/rearvision/weaponised-trade-tariffs-gunboat-diplomacy-economic-warfare/106220304
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From sanctions to tariffs to seizing oil fields — it feels like we've entered a new age of economic warfare. But experts say we're really just returning to the past. To the time before the rules-based international order was established at the end of the Second World War. Gunboat diplomacy it seems is once again de rigueur. Guests William Alan Reinsch — Senior advisor, Center for Strategic and International Studies Saadia Zahidid — Economist and Managing Director of the World Economic Forum Markus Jaeger — Adjunct professor, International and Public Affairs, Columbia SIPA Abraham Newman — Professor of Government, Georgetown University. Author of Underground Empire: How America Weaponized the World Economy (Holt/Penguin 2023) Hugo Slim — Senior Research Fellow, Institute for Ethics, Law and Armed Conflict, University of Oxford

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