# RR009: EPISODE 200!  Leading in the Never Normal with Peter Hinssen, Author

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Podcast: [Realities Remixed](https://stenobird.com/podcast/realities-remixed-5821097)
Published: 2026-04-16T03:45:00+00:00
Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/c55c5c56
Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/c55c5c56/f5962268.mp3
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Duration seconds: 4724

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Realities Remixed, formerly know as Cloud Realities, launches a new season exploring the intersection of people, culture, industry and tech. As AI accelerates the shift from networks to ecosystems, organisations face a growing tension between fast‑moving technology and slower, socially driven organisational change. Success in the “Never Normal” will depend less on intelligence itself and more on leadership qualities, judgement, narrative, trust, and the ability to create space for corporate explorers to build the Day After Tomorrow, not just optimise today. For our 200th epsiode, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Peter Hinssen, keynote speaker, author and lecturer and co-founder of nexxworks to explore how leaders navigating through rapid change, focused on transforming uncertainty into opportunities for growth and innovation.. TLDR 00:41 – Guest introduction and overview of this week’s theme 01:02 – Hangout: Episode 200! 06:25 – Dig in: Deep dive into the pace of change 14:17 – Conversation with Peter Hinssen on adaptive organisations and leadership styles 55:10 – Continuing the conversation about Tech 1:11:20 – Travel to Taiwan, Silicon Valley, and China Guest Peter Hinssen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phinssen/ https://www.peterhinssen.com Hosts Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/ Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ Production Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/ Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ Sound Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/ Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/ 'Realities Remixed' is an original podcast from Capgemini

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