# RR008: Strategic leapfrogging in a disturbed world with Andre Loesekrug-Pietri, JEDI the European ARPA

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Podcast: [Realities Remixed](https://stenobird.com/podcast/realities-remixed-5821097)
Published: 2026-04-09T03:45:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3835

## Resource

In an era where technological progress reshapes power, security, and prosperity at unprecedented speed, societies face a defining choice: adapt incrementally or reinvent boldly. How can breakthrough and disruptive technologies enable strategic leapfrogging, transforming long‑term ambition into real‑world impact amid a rapidly shifting global landscape. This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Andre Loesekrug-Pietri, Chair and the Scientific Director of t he Joint European Disruptive Initiative (JEDI, the European ARPA), to explore the ambition behind and what it would take for Europe to stop reacting to technological change and start shaping it. TLDR 00:30 – Guest introduction and overview of this week’s conversation 01:35 – Team Dig in: Is Europe falling behind on competitiveness? 13:52 – Conversation with Andre Loesekrug-Pietri 1:00:19 – Traveling to Japan with the French president Guest Andre Loeskrug-Petri: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrepietri / X: @eurojedi www.jedi.foundation Hosts Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/ Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/ Production Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/ Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/ Sound Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/ Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/ 'Realities Remixed' is an original podcast from Capgemini

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