# People vs. Money, Thoughts vs. Facts, and Failing Everyda

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Podcast: [Real World Leaders](https://stenobird.com/podcast/real-world-leaders-6823393)
Published: 2025-12-15T20:07:14+00:00
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## Resource

What's the most important form of leadership? Freire Charter High School and DC International School students interview Larry Blue, Retired CEO of Bell & Howell, and John Starling, CEO of Pietential, and discuss volunteering for the hard jobs, accountability, and being athletic, creative, or both.

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