# UCP Sparks Chaos Over Separation Referendum

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Podcast: [Real Talk Ryan Jespersen](https://stenobird.com/podcast/real-talk-ryan-jespersen-1332550)
Published: 2026-05-21T17:40:01+00:00
Episode link: https://ryanjespersen.podbean.com/e/ucp-sparks-chaos-over-separation-referendum/
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Fireworks at the Alberta Legislature as the UCP sends out a press release announcing a committee decision on an independence referendum...before the vote's even been held. The debacle (intentional or otherwise) has Opposition critics and everyday Albertans crying foul. NDP deputy leader Rakhi Pancholi was in the room as the drama unfolded. She takes us behind the scenes in our feature interview (4:30) presented by Mercedes-Benz Edmonton West. THIS EPISODE IS PRESENTED BY HANSEN DISTILLERY. LOOK FOR HANSEN'S BRAND NEW "DISTILLED BY HER" GIN, WITH A PORTION OF PROCEEDS BENEFITING WIN HOUSE. VISIT https://hansendistillery.com/. MBEW: https://www.mercedes-benz-edmontonwes... TELL US WHAT YOU THINK: talk@ryanjespersen.com 31:45 | Looking for fire and spice? Look no further than this back-and-forth between Jespo and Erika Barootes, founding president of the UCP and host of The Erika Barootes Show. Do you agree or disagree with Jespo about the "send a message" crowd? Send us an email: talk@ryanjespersen.com SUBSCRIBE TO ERIKA'S NEW SHOW: https://open.spotify.com/show/7tZt0T10xZZ4VoKKHDRfj8 1:12:20 | Is there a world where an Alberta Pension Plan makes sense? Marshall McAlister from North Road Investment Counsel brings the facts on the Canada Pension Plan and what an APP would mean for your retirement. CONNECT with NORTH ROAD INVESTMENT COUNSEL: https://www.northroadic.com/ 1:32:20 | Jespo and Johnny debrief after a spirited start to the show, and dip into our Live Chat powered by Park Power. SAVE on INTERNET, ELECTRICITY, and NATURAL GAS: https://parkpower.ca/realtalk/ 1:47:00 | Vote for Sonny! We celebrate the remarkable achievements of Sonny Sekhon, nominee for the NHL's prestigious Willie O'Ree Community Hero Award in this edition of Alberta Wins presented by Play Alberta.…

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