# Alberta Judge Throws Out Separation Petition

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Podcast: [Real Talk Ryan Jespersen](https://stenobird.com/podcast/real-talk-ryan-jespersen-1332550)
Published: 2026-05-14T17:11:10+00:00
Episode link: https://ryanjespersen.podbean.com/e/alberta-judge-throws-out-separation-petition/
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Alberta judge Shaina Leonard delivers a blow to the separatist movement, ruling petition organizers failed to consult First Nations whose treaty rights would be directly impacted by Alberta leaving Canada. Premier Danielle Smith immediately vows to appeal, suggesting the ruling is "undemocratic". Jespo leads off with a few thoughts (including the political calculus behind Smith's statement), and we connect with Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation Chief Allan Adam (41:20), who says the court's decision should close the chapter on separation talk once and for all. TELL US WHAT YOU THINK: talk@ryanjespersen.com THIS EPISODE IS PRESENTED BY HANSEN DISTILLERY. LOOK FOR HANSEN'S BRAND NEW "DISTILLED BY HER" GIN, WITH A PORTION OF PROCEEDS BENEFITING WIN HOUSE. VISIT https://hansendistillery.com/. 12:30 | Are you "cognitively surrendering" to Artificial Intelligence? Author Leah Eichler gives us something important to think about re: our relationship with AI in our feature interview presented by Mercedes-Benz Edmonton West. READ LEAH'S PIECE in THE GLOBE: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/social-trends/article-is-ai-coming-for-our-thinking-behold-the-age-of-cognitive-surrender/ CONNECT with LEAH: https://leaheichler.com/ MBEW: https://www.mercedes-benz-edmontonwes... 41:20 | Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation Chief Allan Adam comments on Justice Leonard's ruling on the separatist petition and Premier Danielle Smith's vow to appeal. TELL US WHAT YOU THINK: talk@ryanjespersen.com 53:40 | Real Talker Cara shouts out volunteer and full-time firefighters and EMTs in a timely edition of Alberta Wins presented by Play Alberta. PLAY ALBERTA IS THE ONLY APP IN THE PROVINCE THAT PUTS ALL REVENUE DIRECTLY BACK INTO SUPPORTING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT ALBERTANS RELY ON EVERY DAY. VISIT p…

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