# Avery Trufelman (‘Articles of Interest’) Tells the Stories Behind Our Clothes

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Podcast: [Real Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/real-talk-7773025)
Published: 2026-05-06T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://real-real-talk.captivate.fm
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## Resource

This week on Real Talk, Kristen sits with podcast host Avery Trufelman. They begin by comparing notes on being “best dressed” in high school before unpacking Avery’s aesthetic point of view—how studying German, building her own visual world, and reporting on ritual and Catholic attire shaped her understanding of what she calls the “theater of beauty.” Then, they trace Avery’s path from the podcasts 99% Invisible to Articles of Interest, including the moment she fell out of love with fashion, and how figures like Vivienne Westwood helped crystallize her thinking about style as language, rebellion, and cultural critique. To close, Kristen and Avery offer guidance to two callers: one wondering whether personal style requires loyalty to a signature look or room to experiment, and another searching for more pockets—prompting a conversation about making, modifying, and rethinking clothing as something you build, not just buy. To learn more and subscribe to Real Talk, visit therealreal.com/real-talk. To call into the show, email us at realtalk@therealreal.com.

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