# Erwin De Baetselier and Luceda's first-time-right automated PIC design- Ep 8 - Rays and Waves Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/rays-and-waves-7177942/erwin-de-baetselier-and-luceda-s-first-time-right-automated-pic-design-ep-8-rays-and-waves Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/rays-and-waves-7177942/erwin-de-baetselier-and-luceda-s-first-time-right-automated-pic-design-ep-8-rays-and-waves.md Podcast: [Rays and Waves](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rays-and-waves-7177942) Published: 2025-10-07T06:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/raysandwaves/episodes/Erwin-De-Baetselier-and-Lucedas-first-time-right-automated-PIC-design--Ep-8---Rays-and-Waves-e39655n Audio file: https://anchor.fm/s/fc7e32e8/podcast/play/109302391/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2025-9-6%2Fccae7053-1c95-647c-e99b-e1613cb5525d.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/rays-and-waves-7177942/episodes/erwin-de-baetselier-and-luceda-s-first-time-right-automated-pic-design-ep-8-rays-and-waves Duration seconds: 3090 ## Resource In this episode, we sit down with Erwin De Baetselier, the CEO of Luceda, a company at the forefront of software innovation for Photonic Integrated Circuits (PICs) . As PICs continue to reshape the landscape of optical systems—from data centers to quantum labs—the tools used to design and simulate them are becoming just as critical as the hardware itself. Luceda’s software empowers engineers and researchers to model, optimize, and scale photonic designs with precision and speed. We dive into how their platform bridges the gap between photonic theory and manufacturable reality, and why design automation is key to unlocking the full potential of integrated photonics. Whether you're deep in the weeds of waveguide layouts or just curious about the future of chip-scale optics, this conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at the software driving the PIC revolution. Join Steven and Daniel as they explore the intersection of photonics and design automation with Luceda’s visionary leader. If you enjoy the show, share it with your colleagues, subscribe, and leave us a review! Got thoughts or questions? Reach out at rays.and.waves.podcast@gmail.com Intro music is Good Vibe by Twisterium. Thanks for the great tunes! ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/rays-and-waves-7177942/episodes/erwin-de-baetselier-and-luceda-s-first-time-right-automated-pic-design-ep-8-rays-and-waves/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/rays-and-waves-7177942/erwin-de-baetselier-and-luceda-s-first-time-right-automated-pic-design-ep-8-rays-and-waves.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.