# 237. The Man Behind Joe Camel Reveals How Propaganda Actually Works

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Podcast: [Radically Genuine Podcast with Dr. Roger McFillin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/radically-genuine-podcast-with-dr-roger-mcfillin-3930946)
Published: 2026-07-02T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://radicallygenuinepodcast.transistor.fm/237
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## Resource

Anthony Freda drew one of the most recognizable cartoon characters in advertising history — and illustrated the op-ed pages that helped sell a war. He was paid extraordinarily well to move product, opinion, and entire populations. Then he walked away. In this episode, Dr. Roger McFillin sits down with the illustrator-turned-whistleblower to trace the hidden machinery of persuasion — from Edward Bernays and the "engineering of consent" to the four simple tools used to manufacture belief, sell wars, and convince a nation that its own sickness was health. But this conversation doesn't stop at media criticism. What begins as an insider's confession becomes something far stranger: a story about fear as a weapon, technology as a delivery system, and a spiritual war most people never realize they're inside.

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