# Rev. Dr. Shively Smith on the Wisdom of Howard Thurman

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Published: 2026-04-01T05:15:02+00:00
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## Resource

Rev. Dr. Shively Smith joins us on the pod today! Shively is a professor, author, speaker, lover of water, mom, and avid gamer who visits with us about Howard Thurman, the new testament, guides, ancestors, listening to the small voice within and much more. Join us as we learn to navigate all that is before us and walk that strange path that leads us to our truest selves. Show Notes: Fisk University Howard Thurman - Meditations of the Heart Greg Ellison - Anchors in the Spirit and Fearless Dialogues Howard Thurman - With Head and Heart Renita J. Weems - Just a Sister Away: A Womanist Vision of Women’s Relationships in the Bible Shively Smith - Strangers to Family: Diaspora and 1 Peter’s Invention of God’s Household Union Combined Parish - Boston, MA Shively Smith - Reading Howard Thurman: His Practice of Interpretation Through Womanist Eyes Imagesofinterpreation.com shivelysmith.com Key Topics Water as a spiritual practice and source of clarity Howard Thurman's influence on faith and justice The role of biblical interpretation in social justice The significance of the unnamed in biblical stories Courage and openness in encountering guides and strangers Chapters 00:00 The Power of Grief and Nature's Call 03:01 Introducing Shively Smith: Scholar and Gamer 08:11 The Significance of Water in Spirituality 11:37 Howard Thurman: A Personal Connection 15:14 Thurman's Integration of Inner and Outer Life 19:42 The Journey of a Biblical Scholar 25:48 The Role of Mentorship and Ancestral Guidance 32:12 Courage in Divided Times 34:22 The Journey to New Testament Scholarship 38:52 Engaging with First Peter 41:48 Interpreting Biblical Texts Through a Modern Lens 48:15 From Mercy to Justice 55:04 The Art of Interpretation and Awakening

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