# Episode 23: Do As I Say, Not As I Do: The BACB’s Punishment Problem

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Podcast: [Rad N Bad Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/rad-n-bad-podcast-7370394)
Published: 2025-12-19T14:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sean-carrero/episodes/Episode-23-Do-As-I-Say--Not-As-I-Do-The-BACBs-Punishment-Problem-e3bubtu
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Duration seconds: 1082

## Resource

In this episode of Rad N' Bad, Sean Yocum critically analyzes the Behavior Analyst Certification Board's (BACB) disciplinary process, highlighting its hypocrisy and emotional toll on behavior analysts. He cites "Ethical and Regulatory Investigations in ABA: A Qualitative Analysis of Practitioner Responses and Outcomes (Voulgarakis, 2025)He discusses the profound impact on early career practitioners and the organizational failures within the BACB. The episode concludes with proposed solutions aimed at creating a more compassionate and effective disciplinary system. References: Voulgarakis, H.M. Ethical and Regulatory Investigations in ABA: A Qualitative Analysis of Practitioner Responses and Outcomes. Behav Analysis Practice (2025). https://doi.org/10.1007/s40617-025-01134-0

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