# Jo Callaghan on Body of Lies | The Final Kat and Locke Thriller

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Podcast: [Quick Book Reviews with Philippa Hall](https://stenobird.com/podcast/quick-book-reviews-with-philippa-hall-183832)
Published: 2026-04-24T05:02:00+00:00
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## Resource

Jo Callaghan joins Philippa to talk about  Body of Lies  — the gripping fourth and final Kat Frank and AIDE Lock thriller. We talk about: Why this series ends with book four The emotional challenge of writing the final Kat and Locke story AI, humanity, grief, and what makes us human Plot twists, rewrites, and bringing a series to a powerful close Jo also shares what she’s been reading: Please Help Me  by Gytha Lodge — a tense, high-concept crime thriller Eden Falls  by Ajay Chowdhury — a smart, ambitious sci-fi thriller The Correspondent  (recommended after Philippa’s chat with Alison Barrow) After You’d Gone  by Maggie O’Farrell — a powerful love story Running and Jumping  by Stephen Keady — an unexpectedly fascinating dive into elite athletics Plus, Jo reveals her ideal writing conditions (hint: it’s all about uninterrupted time) and the very specific cheese-and-biscuit combination that fuels her writing. Perfect for fans of smart crime fiction, emotional thrillers, and thought-provoking mysteries. Follow  Quick Book Reviews  for more author interviews and spoiler-free book chat. Pre-order Body Of Lies here: https://www.waterstones.com/book/body-of-lies/jo-callaghan/9781398535565 https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/body-of-lies-the-crime-thriller-of-2026-from-the-award-winning-and-sunday-times-bestselling-author-of-in-the-blink-of-an-eye-jo-callaghan/cbbcf2c82f6b5367?ean=9781398535565&next=t https://amzn.eu/d/0bmnarRm Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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