# Safe Isn't Enough: Why LGBTQ+ Educators Matter More Than Ever | Ep. 195 (with Dr. Michael Sadowski)

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Podcast: [Queering Education: LGBTQ+ Inclusive Teaching, Queer Pedagogy, and Real Classroom Practice](https://stenobird.com/podcast/queering-education-lgbtq-inclusive-teaching-queer-pedagogy-and-real-classroom-practice-5492858)
Published: 2026-02-26T05:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this powerful conversation, host Bryan Stanton (they/them) speaks with Michael Sadowski about what it means to be an out educator—from coming out in job interviews in the 1990s to researching queer youth, GSAs, and the limits of “safe schools.” Michael shares his journey from theater to teaching, launching a GSA in Massachusetts, earning his doctorate, and writing extensively about LGBTQ+ youth, identity development, and education. Together, they explore what’s changed for queer students a...

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