# 471 | The Science of Second Chances w/Jennifer Doleac

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Published: 2026-04-30T10:00:00+00:00
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Today, Hunter was joined by Jennifer Doleac, Executive VP of Criminal Justice at Arnold Ventures and author of the book, The Science of Second Chances . Throughout the episode, Hunter and Jennifer discuss the evidence that supports rehabilitation as a purpose of punishment, the lack of evidence to support retribution as a purpose of punishment, and get into their disagreements about the role of policing in public safety. Guest: Jennifer Doleac, Executive VP of Criminal Justice, Arnold Ventures, Author, Science of Second Chances Resources: More from Jennifer Here https://jenniferdoleac.com/ Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****

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