# 470 | Why did the Marion County Public Defenders Decide to Unionize Their Office w/Lucy Frick and Tim Smith

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Published: 2026-04-28T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Today, Hunter was joined by Lucy Frick and Tim Smith of the Marion County Public Defender Office in Indianapolis, Indiana. Over the past two years, Lucy, Tim and the rest of the office fought hard to unionize their office. This episode aims to help people understand why they fought so hard and why others should unionize their offices. Guest: Lucy Frick, Attorney, Major Felony Division, Marion County Public Defender Tim Smith, Social Worker, Major Felony Division, Marion County Public Defender Resources: Contact Lucy Lucy.Frick@indy.gov Learn More About the Office https://www.indy.gov/agency/marion-county-public-defender-agency Contact Hunter Parnell: Publicdefenseless@gmail.com Instagram @PublicDefenselessPodcast Twitter @PDefenselessPod www.publicdefenseless.com Subscribe to the Patreon www.patreon.com/PublicDefenselessPodcast Donate on PayPal https://www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted_button_id=5KW7WMJWEXTAJ Donate on Stripe https://donate.stripe.com/7sI01tb2v3dwaM8cMN Trying to find a specific part of an episode? Use this link to search transcripts of every episode of the show! https://app.reduct.video/o/eca54fbf9f/p/d543070e6a/share/c34e85194394723d4131/home **** ALL OPINONS SHARED BY HOST HUNTER PARNELL DO NOT REFLECT THE THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS OF THE AURORA MUNICIPAL PUBLIC DEFENDER****

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