# 108. Endurance Beats Brilliance: What 700+ Interviews with the World's Brightest Leaders Taught Me (with Ryan Hawk)

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Podcast: [Psychology at Work | Career Success, Leadership, Communication Skills](https://stenobird.com/podcast/psychology-at-work-career-success-leadership-communication-skills-7001317)
Published: 2026-06-17T09:00:00+00:00
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Early in your career, the metrics are clear and your effort translates into direct results. But what happens when that stops being true? When you have to reinvent yourself constantly, and when it seems - no matter how hard you work - success is slow to come? Ryan Hawk – host of The Learning Leader Show has spent years having over 700 conversations with the world's brightest authors, scholars, and researchers. In this episode he breaks down insights from his new book The Price of Becoming.&nbs...

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