# Episode 10 - Stephanie Karzon Abrams: Heart and Science

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Podcast: [Psychedelics Then and Now with Zach Leary](https://stenobird.com/podcast/psychedelics-then-and-now-with-zach-leary-326349)
Published: 2025-11-08T16:58:00+00:00
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Episode 10 - Stephanie Karzon Abrams: Heart and Science This episode takes on a wide ranging ride inside Stephanie's wildy diverse experise on the science of psychedelics to the importance of music and community. Stephanie is a profound and powerful voice in the psychedelic community and her work represents the best of the modern psychedelic movement. Intro: Ann Shulgin takes on a brief exploration of the shadow. Stephanie Karzon Abrams is a neuropharmacologist, founder of Beyond Consulting—powering the integrative, psychedelic and plant medicine spaces, and is the co-founder of the Public Secret music label and artist collective. She serves as Clinical Director at Modern Medicine Services, is a prescriber of MDMA and psilocybin therapy under Canada's SAP, and is the Research Director at the Microdosing Collective non profit. Stephanie believes in the undercurrent of joy woven into the fabric of our existence and thus co-created the talk and event series "The Chemistry of Joy", where the human experience is explored through the lens of ritual and celebration. With experience in neurology, intensive care, and medical device at Johnson & Johnson, she is a recognized leader in innovative healthcare. Her work bridges neuroscience, women's health, plant medicine, and the healing power of music. A musician, writer, and speaker, Stephanie also builds community through gatherings rooted in music, meaning, and mycology. Web: https://www.stephaniekarzonabrams.com Www.Beyondconsulting.Life Social: @steph__k @public.secret @microdosingcollective @thechemistryofjoy @mod_meds

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