# 436 | Turning Visibility Into Sales with Kaila Uli, The Bok Agency

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Podcast: [Proof to Product](https://stenobird.com/podcast/proof-to-product-615543)
Published: 2026-03-31T17:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This week I'm joined by content strategist Kaila Uli . If you're trying to get more visibility for your product brand online and actually turn that visibility into sales, you are going to love this conversation. I originally started following Kaila on social media because her videos kept popping up on my feed and every single one of them was packed with just practical, no-nonsense advice specifically for product folks, which is unusual to see. She does an incredible job of breaking down what actually works when it comes to organic video content on TikTok and Instagram, especially for product brands that want to grow their audience and sell more of your product. During our conversation, we talk about the role that organic content should realistically play in your overall marketing strategy, the difference between content that simply gets views and content that actually converts to sales. We also talk about the biggest mistakes that product brands make when they show up online. Kaila also shares her perspective on something that I know a lot of you wrestle with, which is whether or not to show your face on camera or if your product can truly be the hero of your content. We dig into what intentional conversion-focused content actually looks like, the formats that are driving results, and why chasing virality is not the strategy that most people think it is. If this sounds interesting to you, I think you're really going to enjoy this episode. Today's episode is brought to you by our Proof to Product LABS coaching program . This is a coaching program specifically built for product-based business owners, with members from across industries and across the globe. Inside of LABS, we host expert workshops with incredible industry leaders, including Kaila. She's coming soon to te…

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