# THE Shonda Rhimes on The Magic of "Fitting Out" and Doing What Scares You

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Podcast: [Project Swagger with Robin Arzón](https://stenobird.com/podcast/project-swagger-with-robin-arz-n-7706503)
Published: 2026-06-09T08:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1595

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