# From Game Dev to Google: Agentic AI, Zero to One, and the Future of Product Management

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Podcast: [Product Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-talk-216178)
Published: 2026-05-13T13:14:00+00:00
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## Resource

What does it actually take to build a product when no one believes it's possible? In this episode of Product Talk, hosted by Thomson Reuters Director of Product Vinay Aradhya, Google Group Product Managersoftware development, and what separates great product managers from the rest. Drawing from his journey as a game developer, FinTech CTO, and the lead PM who helped build Google Stadia from scratch, Pawel brings rare perspective on the craft of building and leading in an era where everything is changing fast.

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