# CPO Rising Series: Why Remix AI's Former CPO Pressed Pause on Leadership to Build Again

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Podcast: [Product Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-talk-216178)
Published: 2026-06-24T12:07:00+00:00
Episode link: https://productsthatcount.libsyn.com/cpo-rising-series-why-remix-ais-former-cpo-pressed-pause-on-leadership-to-build-again
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## Resource

What does it mean when a seasoned CPO with experience at Disney, Apple, Airbnb, and Walmart.com walks away from the C-suite to go build products by himself? In this episode of the CPO Rising series hosted by Products That Count Resident CPO Renee Niemi, former Remix AI co-founder and CPO Kevin Swint speaks on why this moment in AI demanded that kind of move, what he learned building an agentic application in two weeks that would have taken a year and hundreds of thousands of dollars before, and why the feedback loop between domain expert and builder has collapsed in a way that changes everything. From tourist behavior in AI products to the fundamentals of stickiness that never change, Kevin brings 25 years of hard-won perspective to the most exciting moment in product history.

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