# CPO Rising Series: The Product Manager Will Cease to Exist by 2030

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Podcast: [Product Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-talk-216178)
Published: 2026-06-01T12:18:00+00:00
Episode link: https://productsthatcount.libsyn.com/cpo-rising-series-the-product-manager-will-cease-to-exist-by-2030
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## Resource

What if the role that has defined a generation of tech careers disappears within five years? In this inaugural episode of the fifth year of the CPO Rising Series, Products That Count Founder & Managing Partner SC Moatti and Resident CPO Renee Niemi make their boldest prediction yet: the product manager as we know it will be replaced by the product builder by 2030. Drawing on conversations with over 1,500 CPOs this year alone, Renee unpacks what is driving the shift, what separates good CPOs from great ones from the best, and why for companies that do not get ahead of this transition, the risk is not just competitive. It is existential.

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