# CPO Rising Series: Cartwheel CPO on Building AI into Healthcare Without Breaking Trust Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-talk-216178/cpo-rising-series-cartwheel-cpo-on-building-ai-into-healthcare-without-breaking-trust Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-talk-216178/cpo-rising-series-cartwheel-cpo-on-building-ai-into-healthcare-without-breaking-trust.md Podcast: [Product Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-talk-216178) Published: 2026-06-26T12:38:00+00:00 Episode link: https://productsthatcount.libsyn.com/cpo-rising-series-cartwheel-cpo-on-building-ai-into-healthcare-without-breaking-trust Audio file: https://traffic.libsyn.com/secure/productsthatcount/Sarah_Turrin_Podcast_Audio_Version.mp3?dest-id=302280 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/product-talk-216178/episodes/cpo-rising-series-cartwheel-cpo-on-building-ai-into-healthcare-without-breaking-trust Duration seconds: 2340 ## Resource What happens to the entire product development process when creating software becomes as easy as creating a Google Doc? In this episode of the CPO Rising Series hosted by Products That Count Resident CPO Jay Patel, Cartwheel CPO Sarah Turrin speaks on how the collapse of software costs is reshaping healthcare product leadership, why the era of CPOs as pure strategists is already over, and how she thinks about deploying AI in healthcare environments where a probabilistic model simply cannot be unleashed on patients without deterministic guardrails. Thirty days into her role at one of the nation's largest K-12 mental health platforms, Sarah brings a rare combination of clinical sensitivity, technical fluency, and genuine urgency about what product leaders need to do right now. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/product-talk-216178/episodes/cpo-rising-series-cartwheel-cpo-on-building-ai-into-healthcare-without-breaking-trust/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/product-talk-216178/cpo-rising-series-cartwheel-cpo-on-building-ai-into-healthcare-without-breaking-trust.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.