# Ingrid D. Rowland on Art History, Raphael, and Disegno Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/private-life-a-new-york-review-podcast-7689958/ingrid-d-rowland-on-art-history-raphael-and-disegno Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/private-life-a-new-york-review-podcast-7689958/ingrid-d-rowland-on-art-history-raphael-and-disegno.md Podcast: [Private Life: A New York Review Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/private-life-a-new-york-review-podcast-7689958) Published: 2026-05-13T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://share.transistor.fm/s/4b64794b Audio file: https://media.transistor.fm/4b64794b/fc72755e.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/private-life-a-new-york-review-podcast-7689958/episodes/ingrid-d-rowland-on-art-history-raphael-and-disegno Duration seconds: 3256 ## Resource In this episode of Private Life, the art historian Ingrid D. Rowland joins Jarrett Earnest for an in-depth discussion about art history and disegno , an Italian word for “design” that was also a Renaissance-era concept describing some artists’ ability simultaneously to draw and to conceive of a grander scheme in their work. Rowland also talks about the lives and work of some of the Italian Renaissance’s most significant figures: Raphael; Caravaggio; Giorgi Vasari, a sixteenth-century artist and writer from Florence; and Agostini Chigi, a banker and art patron. Rowland is Professor Emerita of History at the University of Notre Dame. Her most recent book is The Lies of the Artists: Essays on Italian Art, 1450–1750 (2024). In 2017, she cowrote the biography The Collector of Lives: Giorgio Vasari . She has been a contributor to The New York Review of Books since 1994, writing extensively on art, art history, architecture, and theater. Her debut in our pages was “ Character Witnesses, ” an essay about Renaissance portrait medals. Other articles have included “ Caravaggio Lost and Found ,” about two rediscovered Caravaggio paintings, “ Roman Rivalries ,” about Michelangelo and Sebastiano, and “ The Virtuoso ,” a rapturous review of a 2020 Raphael exhibition in Rome. Read the essays discussed in this episode and many others with a subscription to The New York Review of Books , which, in addition to twenty issues a year, gives you access to our full archive since 1963, searchable on our website. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/private-life-a-new-york-review-podcast-7689958/episodes/ingrid-d-rowland-on-art-history-raphael-and-disegno/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/private-life-a-new-york-review-podcast-7689958/ingrid-d-rowland-on-art-history-raphael-and-disegno.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.