# P&S ModCast 87 - Plateaus

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Podcast: [Primary & Secondary Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/primary-secondary-podcast-322718)
Published: 2025-12-08T23:00:56+00:00
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## Resource

Primary & Secondary ModCast - Plateaus. Originally recorded 02/17. The panel discusses plateaus in training, learning, and skillsets. Sadly, Mike passed since this recording. I always found his input extremely valuable. The Pat we are referring to during the discussion is the late Pat Rogers, with whom Mike worked with for many years. Host: Matt Landfair Panel: Steve Fisher Michael Hueser Rick Labistre Matt Meckley Justin Smith Patreon can be found here: https://www.patreon.com/PrimaryandSecondary Primary & Secondary: Rumble: https://rumble.com/user/PrimaryandSecondary Website: https://primaryandsecondary.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/primaryandsecondary/ Forum: https://primaryandsecondary.com/forum Complete Audio Podcasts: https://spreaker.com/show/primary-secondary-podcast Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/primary-secondary-podcast--2585240/support .

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