# OpenClaw joins OpenAI, Agent Wallets and Payments, Lightning vs Stablecoins for Agentic Commerce

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Podcast: [PBJ](https://stenobird.com/podcast/presidio-bitcoin-jam-7268126)
Published: 2026-02-20T23:06:27+00:00
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## Resource

0:00 Studio reset and laying down the law after technical issues 1:25 Mardi Gras whiplash and escaping the SF tech/AI bubble 2:35 Post-AGI life, work, and the “permanent underclass” 7:40 Presidio Bitcoin Index teaser 9:45 What “open source” means in an agent world 12:15 Ideating agent-native GitHub 16:05 OpenClaw ₿uilder meetup (SF) and March ₿uilder NYC at PubKey 19:40 Hackathon takeaways: vibe-coding enabling mass participation, exponential tooling leaps, Replit skepticism 29:40 Agentic payments primer - defining the terms and framing the landscape 39:00 Stablecoin UX reality: chain/pair explosion, gas complexity, and interoperability painpoints 52:40 Lightning as a simplifier: interoperability across wallets and consumer abstraction 56:20 KYC barriers for agents and liability questions 1:07:30 Agent-to-agent payment demo 1:10:10 Adoption strategy debate: seller adoption, agents as customers, and why there's urgency 1:27:50 OpenClaw joining OpenAI psyop speculation - SHOW NOTES: OpenClaw ₿uilder meetup (SF): https://luma.com/9b8p41f4 - SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin

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