# 228: Architecture, Innovation, and What the Built Environment Needs to Learn

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Podcast: [Practice Disrupted by Practice of Architecture](https://stenobird.com/podcast/practice-disrupted-by-practice-of-architecture-804792)
Published: 2026-03-26T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://practiceofarchitecture.com/podcast/
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## Resource

Are architects going to figure out startups first, or will startups figure out architecture first? In this episode of Practice Disrupted, host Evelyn Lee is joined by Bryan Boyer, founding director of the Bachelor of Science in Urban Technology at the University of Michigan's Taubman College and Faculty Director of the University of Michigan Center for Innovation in Detroit, and Larry Fabbroni, architect and innovator, to discuss the critical crossroads facing the built environment. With roughly 165 companies currently vying to sell technology into the AECO supply chain, Bryan and Larry explore the innovation gap in an industry that remains significantly under-innovated compared to analogous sectors. They advocate for a radical shift in architectural education and practice, one that equips architects with the entrepreneurial vocabulary and venture design skills needed to lead the companies of the future. The conversation delves into the rise of Urban Technology and why it is essential for architects to understand the startup and capital landscape. Bryan shares the mission behind his first-of-its-kind degree program, which prepares students to manage the complexity of cities through a lens of product and service design, and explains how that work has evolved into a new master's degree program launching through UMCI, a $250 million innovation hub opening in downtown Detroit in fall 2027. Larry discusses the intimidation many architects feel when entering the startup world and the importance of providing them with the resources to move from passive employees of tech companies to founders and leaders who actually define how our built environment is delivered. "The fastest moving teams are gonna be the ones who have individuals with those deep knowledge expertise, who have…

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