# Customer DPAs and the overuse of SCCs: Fixing data transfer friction | Roy Kamp

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Podcast: [Practical Privacy with Orla Dormer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/practical-privacy-with-orla-dormer-7667648)
Published: 2026-03-30T18:00:02+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Practical Privacy, Orla Dormer speaks with Roy Kamp, Director at UKG and former DPO at Wayfair and McAfee, about a common challenge in vendor negotiations: customers insisting on Standard Contractual Clauses (SCCs) even when they may not apply. Roy explains why this happens, why negotiating every SCC request doesn’t scale, and how reframing the discussion around actual data flows rather than contractual positions can reduce friction and improve trust with customers. The conversation explores practical ways privacy teams can enable sales and legal teams, use transparency to build credibility, and avoid unnecessary complexity in customer DPAs.

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