# Love Him or Hate Him Trumps Ten Commandments | With Professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld

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Published: 2026-03-24T07:00:00+00:00
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What can we learn about leadership from someone as unconventional — and as consequential — as Donald Trump? In this week's Power & Impact , I sit down with a good friend of mine, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, and his colleague Steven Tian to discuss their new book, Trump's Ten Commandments: Strategic Lessons from the Trump Leadership Toolbox. Jeff leads the Yale Chief Executive Leadership Institute at the Yale School of Management, where Steven serves as director of research. Jeff has spent decades studying leadership at the highest levels, and what I've long respected about his work is that it's grounded in curiosity and academic rigor. When I asked why he chose to take this on, his answer was straightforward: You can't understand leadership by studying only the leaders you admire. In the book, Jeff and Steven draw on years of research, CEO forums, and conversations with more than 50 insiders — from family members to senior advisers — to better understand how President Trump operates. What they've identified are 10 tools in Trump's leadership toolbox. They're the patterns he returns to when making decisions, commanding attention, and exercising influence. The goal of the book is to step back and examine how power is exercised. It's particularly important given the president's impact on politics, business, and culture. Whether you agree with Trump or not, understanding how his style of leadership works can be valuable. I think you'll find my conversation with Jeff and Steven thoughtful, balanced, and worth your time

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