# How Notion rebuilt for the age of AI

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Podcast: [Possible](https://stenobird.com/podcast/possible-6189144)
Published: 2026-03-04T08:01:00+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode of Possible, Reid and Aria talk with Ivan Zhao, co-founder of Notion, about what happens when intelligence becomes abundant rather than scarce. Zhao shares his philosophy of treating computing as a material — like steel or steam — and why organizations must be built for human scale in an AI-driven world. From Renaissance cities to Xerox PARC, the conversation traces a shift from productivity software to cognitive infrastructure, and arrives at a clear conclusion: in an AI-powered future, human judgment, taste, and values matter most. For more info on the podcast and transcripts of all the episodes, visit https://www.possible.fm/podcast/

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